The political scientist Albert Royo said that the September elections will be “a plebiscite de facto” on self-determination. The independence parties need to achieve a solid absolute majority to counter the will of the Spanish government.
The Catalan independence forces are committed to a key date, 27 September, when elections are held to elect government in this region of Spain. If the Catalan nationalist parties from the center-right Convergencia i Unio (CIU), the center-of Esquerra Republicana, to other left formations, add a solid absolute majority, it may break through a process of self-determination that would conflict squarely against the will of the ruler Conservative Mariano Rajoy and the rest of the españolista leadership, as the PSOE. Albert Royo, Secretary General of the Council of Public Diplomacy of Catalonia, said in an interview with Pagina / 12 that the September elections will be “a plebiscite de facto” on self-determination. He came to Buenos Aires to give a talk at the Faculty of Law at the UBA and then went to Montevideo, where he also will realize the political situation in Catalonia. The young political scientist feels a bond with both sides. His maternal grandfather fought on the Republican side and after the war was exiled first to Argentina and then to Uruguay, where he had a daughter. Years ago, Royo served as Secretary of Foreign Cooperation in the center-left government led Pascual Maragall (2004-2007), a leader of the PSOE supporting self-determination. Today he says no military in any game, but working with the government of conservative President Artur Mas (CiU).
-The November 9 symbolic one sovereigntist consultation was conducted. Is gender discouragement in Catalan society the legal impediment to advance the plebiscite and not very high participation?
We’ve been three years trying to negotiate with the Spanish government holding a referendum on self-determination like I was in Scotland last year, but the PP legalistic response has been that it is unconstitutional. Rajoy closed all doors to hold the referendum we wanted. We conducted an informal consultation, but we are seeking the vote recognized by the State. There is a certain tiredness, a bit following the 9N nothing happened, partly because of the expectation that we generated then diluted.
In Spain has emerged renewed strength left How can we, what is their role in Catalonia?
We can, together with the United Left, were the only parties in the Spanish area they were willing to hold a referendum in Catalonia. The problem is that when we asked for some details on how the referendum would raise the response of the leaders of Podemos was more pragmatic, and this would be reforming the Constitution, providing for the holding of referenda on self-determination. To amend the Constitution two thirds of the Spanish Parliament, most early elections and confirmation of two thirds of the new parliament are necessary. So the Spanish guarantor system works. As things stand, it is unthinkable, since the PP and the PSOE are opposed. Nor can we imagine that we can get that support. We have experienced some disappointment with can. The way we have now is to use the regional elections as a de facto referendum. If between Convergence and Union, Esquerra Republicana and Application d`Unitat parties got a majority of votes -68 escaños- favor of sovereignty, we will have a democratic mandate for independence. We hope that the Madrid government to accept the result and we can negotiate. We give you a year and a half. After that period, the Catalan Republic will be born
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And how interprets the growth of the party Citizen, born in Catalonia hard and is in line with the PP and the PSOE , anti-independence
As anti-nationalist party nationalist Catalan and Spanish; It is an anti-Catalan party. It is not known well from the economic perspective which postulated as feed defectors coming from the PSOE and the PP, as the candidate for the mayor’s office of Barcelona, Carina Mejías, a woman who has said that the demonstration should be banned scheduled for 11 September in Barcelona. They make the jump to the Spanish policy promoted by the establishment of Madrid. Some say that he wanted to offer an alternative center-right vote voter who does not vote for the PP. Now this little project is a real threat. Citizens Catalonia is becoming the largest party of antisoberanista polo, gaining support of former voters of the PP and the Socialist Party. But unlike citizens, we can is a movement with a real base, the result of 15-M and assembly-processes.
‘There are corruption cases that dot the ruling Convergence and Union party Artur But, like Jordi Pujol and his son, and at the same Mas. Not much is different from the traditional parties of Spain.
It’s true that there have been cases of corruption involving the ruling party, and I think if we are to build an independent Catalonia must reject any act of corruption and prosecute those responsible. It has affected the figure of Jordi Pujol and that was a disappointment for many voters to CiU. There are reasons to believe that there was illegal conduct must be judged. We have to expect that justice act. The problem is that there is also a dirty war. There were accusations against the regional president Artur Mas on alleged Swiss bank account one week before the 2012 elections, and the media took it for granted and did not present evidence. They want to demobilize the Catalan public.
-The Basque claim seems to have been eclipsed with the Catalan momentum.
It happens that armed conflict let a thousand victims, and a fractured society. Euskadi is doing something you’ve done Catalonia, which is rebuild their society, reunify. Euskadi is split because of armed conflict. In addition, the Spanish government has made no gesture to ETA to advance a peace process prisoners. Rajoy makes no gesture, never negotiated.
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